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MoonShadow a.k.a - ShadowCaster
A challenge and invitation to RAMS, and others
Thu Oct 21 23:11:31 1999


who have come this way by way of the recent stir Stephens' reemergence has created.

We've been there before....

let's not go there again.

Robert, if you expect me to lie down and smile while you try to take this board the way of Howl, Behold, and Behold 2 - I'm sorry, you are sadly mistaken. What you are succeeding in accomplishing is making a spectacle of yourself. There are some here who are amused by your current show. Others have expressed their outrage at your mud-slinging and belittling. And while surrounded by the current chaos - focus on the positive things that this group of individuals can achieve is lost.

We invite you to play the games elsewhere - and come here to discuss creative ideas. We encourage you to provide us with information, links, etc. - that takes topics discussed on this board from here to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. Not everybody who posts or reads on this board is a Ufologist, or somebody who has found their way here by way of Ufology, or one who has seen a UFO. We're here to discuss ideas, explore possibilities, perhaps to accomplish great deeds in our lives.

We are here to discuss the possibilities to see a "MoonCam" start beaming pictures from a lunar orbit back to Earth, exploring the possibilities to become energy independent from the utility companies, discovering patents that were "buried" for one reason or another - and that deserve more attention. We may talk about a movie we saw last evening, a trip to D.C. to attend a funeral, our children, or other things that touch our lives on a personal basis. One thing is common in any and all of this - we are trying to discuss these issues in a positive fashion.

You see Robert, it isn't about you, or the Bell-Oates feud anymore. That's old, very ugly news. Again I challenge you, invite you - demand even - that you bring something positive here. This is bigger than you Stephens. Are you up to this task or are you going to continue to dwell in the swill?

Scott W
Well, well, well...
Fri Oct 22 02:47:53 1999


Look who's back.

And still showing his true colors.

I see no evidence of "Ufology" here, just a group of people who are working towards defining a project that (a) could easily help increase interest in the space program and NASA and (b) help find suitable locations on the moon for future landings by providing detailed geological and topographical information. Nothing "strange," nothing worthy of his definition of "Ufology."

Then he shows up to try and drag it all back down to the "old days."

Trying to clean up "Ufology?"

Trying to defend the nature and character of "NASA?"

My ass, he is.

He's simply enamored by the spotlight, and wishes to be back in it.

Behold your God of Love.

Robert A.M. Stephens
Content deleted n/m
Fri Oct 22 02:57:07 1999

Scott W
"We" are "love?"
Fri Oct 22 03:02:45 1999


First off, with the possible exception of Ms. Leigh, YOU are the only one of your ilk left here. Everyone else has moved on.

Second off, you are NOT love. You are but a small man, unhappy with the hand life has dealt him, who wishes to thrust himself into the spotlight for the adulation he thinks he deserves.

Well, many of us fell for your ploy before, but will not a second time. You may believe that you are love, a godsend sent to clean up Ufology, a Navy SEAL, or whatever, but what you are is an obscure little speck.

I see a link above to a board where you may preach your love. Now, why don't you go there, and allow us this space to continue to try and do something productive?

The Real """THEM"""
Mr. RAMS have you learned nothing on Planet 19.5?
Fri Oct 22 05:00:36 1999


Would you like to spend more time on a coaster with Mr. Hoaxi?
BTW this is the real and original """"THEM"""".
I certainly hope the previous """"THEM""" is an arachnid?
Peace Brother? grins

GOM
Hey Scott, Re: "We are love" . . .
Fri Oct 22 03:07:48 1999


You forgot about Bobby's little "visitor" friends . . .

Maybe "they" are not imaginary any more?

Robert A.M. Stephens
Content deleted n/m
Fri Oct 22 03:22:56 1999

Tenrock
Death does not become you....
Fri Oct 22 09:32:10 1999


Why did Stas put up a death certificate on the resurrected Shadie Pines webpage, which indicates that Robert A.M. Stephens committed suicide on 18 October 1999? Who is signing for RAMS on Hazy Reports? A ghost writer :-)

Robert A.M. Stephens
re: ECHELON story link--you left out
Fri Oct 22 11:26:47 1999


the words; NRO, SV, Silver Veil, transit, vulcan, mini-gun, Rand-Rotary, M79, M-59, Pentex, Phosgene, Mini 30, Blackhawk, Black, SV Prime. these too are trigger words under "Echelon".

RAMS

Accountability
Robert...if its not too much trouble...
Fri Oct 22 11:10:42 1999


I would like to be used for charcoal in the big barbecue pit at the kick-off party for the New Order...Okay?

Thanks...

Accountability
Or...I could serve drinks...maybe?
Fri Oct 22 11:22:13 1999

Morris
The RAMS I liked "...due to vehicle exhibiting phasing ..."
Fri Oct 22 14:59:14 1999


Montana UFO Sighting Update
The "Gray," It's Still There!


Montana UFO Sighting Update -The "Gray," It's Still There!
By Robert A.M. Stephens 11-11-98

ST IGNATIUS, MONTANA --The ongoing UFO sightings have continued into the 11-10-1998 time frame. Cloud cover broke for this night and the UFO, alone, was there as it had been only lower in altitude and slightly further south toward the town of St. Ignatius, Montana, itself roughly 10 miles south of Ronan along the southern edge of the sprawling Mission Valley.

Due to nearly 100% cloud cover with snow and storm over the last several nights viewing has been null from 11-6-1998 to current. Observation was made by local law enforcement as well as workers at the manufacturing facility mentioned in previous posts and other civilians who happened to notice the craft and reported same. Total on witnesses as of this writing has exceeded 600 area wide.

There has been no further reporting by outside news sources other than that posted already. Lake county sheriff office personnel have continued to look into the matter with no availing information over and above what visual observation has provided. Local law enforcement in the towns of Ronan, St. Ignatius, and Polson have done the same. They too have garnered no conclusive data on this sighting.

Reporter has yet to successfully witness UFO firsthand but is making arrangements to attempt this in forthcoming nights when conditions abide for such. In so doing two Navy SEAL high resolution digital compasses will be set up four miles apart along the north south route of highway 93, thus providing for triangulation, distance from the center of highway 93 --- a logical azimuth anchor point to the observed craft, size of craft, altitude, and if detected movement can be attained, thus, inherent speed in relation to observed location.

The viewing time and conditions for this latest sighting was from 1:27AM to 3:34 AM when cloud cover obliterated the viewing window. During this time of clearing the sky was cloudless, exceptionally clear, stars in abundance, temperature in the 5 degree F range, no moon as it had set over the mountains to the west, no wind at surface. However, at 20,000 feet ASL the west to east winds are a steady 120 MPH over the Rocky Mountain Front complex coming from WWS blowing toward the EEN in a direct line. Witnesses reported the conditions were clear enough to single out a defined shape behind the previously described lighting of the craft but it was too vague to accurately describe. Several witnesses used hunting type binoculars for observation but they have yet to be interviewed by this reporter.

Craft was 8 nautical miles distant from viewing locale at manufacturing facility and at altitude of approximately 14,000 feet ASL, and 4 miles further south than previous sightings since 10-16-1998.

*ERRATA Numerous emails to reporter have suggested this sighting is everything from ours, balloons, holograms.


From experience over 19 years with NASA at various test sites around the country and overseas as well as a Navy SEAL active until 1990 and Reserve Status since that date to current, reporter can testify this sighting studied from interviews and reports from law enforcement, witnesses, and the NORAD / Fence database program, anomaly is nothing in our paucity for understanding. It is not of our technology. It is not an apparition. It is a physical vehicle with mass of unknown origin. It is an unknown and in Aerospace/military vernacular, listed as a 'GRAY'.

The only remotely close related vehicle that could exhibit anything related to this anomaly is the Aurora high propulsion VTOL capable aircraft. However, tests and performance of this vehicle precludes the following:

1. It [ Aurora ] is and has been grounded for further structural tests at Area 51, Edwards Air Force Base, [Dryden], and at parent contractors test facilities at Palmdale, CA, at Lockheed, McDonnell Douglas, and Northrop. Aurora has not flown since 1-9-1998. Its only known public observation was during test flights over Area 51 on the afternoon of June 21, 1992, and video taped by cameramen from NBC News. Subsequent tape was shown and narrated on the NBC Nightly News the following night with narration by Mr. Brokaw, the nightly news anchor.

2. Aurora cannot hover in air at that altitude, temperature differential, present cross wind, nor can it evade F16F class aircraft.

3. Aurora is a small craft in size comparison to the F-117

4. Montana anomaly is guessed (by witness account) to be somewhere at 600 feet on a side and triangular in shape. Aurora is of the shape of a June bug, 1/700th this size.

5. Aurora could not be seen with unaided eye at this distance of observation as reported under any conditions.

Thus, this UFO is not Aurora


THE FENCE
The 'Fence' protocol at NORAD is a remarkable program made up of many technicians monitoring a series of interleaved grids coming from Geostationary high orbit satellites. The office tracks all 9,653 man made objects in space orbiting Earth. These include a pair of gloves from Gemini 6 and some dozen washers dropped on a repair mission on STS-51A on a shuttle mission and every other orbiting object of artificial origin along with the occasional meteorite that may remain in Earth's space for some overly long seconds.. If something untoward enters into the tracking field (the fence) it then begins a series of tracking logarithms to track speed, location, altitude, departure angle, mass, heat, and inherent velocity. From there it runs a test for itself to confirm that whatever it is is not something we have in space. From there a management program kicks in called, 'Intruder Assessment'. If a series of democratic protocols weigh out then the next step is to start a series of visual confirmations with our own air assets. Stealth 117A and or SR-71 are dispatched to attempt intercept. From there the 'Fence' protocols go through a series of 'what is' formats until the intruding element is either confirmed to be something from us or an unknown. Unknowns are called a 'Gray'.

This is because the unknown is there in space but is not ours. It is not a 'target white' (friend) nor a 'target black' (foe). Thus far the Montana UFO is a 'Gray' as listed. It is also the 117,443 unknown to be catalogued at the 'Fence' office at NORAD or SAC since 1966, globally. It is suspected they (NORAD) have moved any one of three Keyhole deep-look satellites into position in high Earth Orbit to watch this bogey when it appears since conventional ground based air assets have failed to acquire craft for confirmation due to vehicle exhibiting phasing or some other type of eluding of recon aircraft.

UFOs are not referred to as such in the military/NASA parlance. They are either a 't-white' (target white) if friend, 't-black' (target black) if a foe. Unknowns are a 't-gray' or sometimes a 'tg' for an acronym if not of Earth origin. The Montana UFO is not of Earth origin.

Reported by: Robert A.M. Stephens Contractor, NASA Shuttle Documentation Program St. Ignatius, Montana (11-11-1998)

MoonShadow
Now that RAMS does have a board of his own....
Fri Oct 22 14:38:39 1999


and not Hazy/Mission Control - degrading and demeaning posts by him are no longer welcome here and will/have been deleted from this board.

Robert, our guidelines here are rather clear. Contribute something positive or stay on your board to spout your crap.

Hoagy's Drawers
Who made you King of the Bums?
Fri Oct 22 14:56:13 1999


I suppose you are responsible for the Moo Cam as well.

I've found several Moo Cams - so you are not the first with this idea, bum.

Here are some more:

Amazing CowCam

The Awesome Cowcam!(needs work - maybe some of you bums can help)

The best, of course, is this one as it has aliens:
Almaden CattleCam (if you don't see any cows, it is because they have been abducted)

HD

Serenity
GOM and Tilos: You're right. I shall...
Fri Oct 22 18:56:45 1999


...forget about the letter (at least for the time being), but let's don't forget he's still a U.S. Senator.

Tilos, I'll bet RAMS has been up at Swillwater Kills sawing logs but will return in the VERY near future. Now that he's had another taste, I doubt he can go long without the attention he drew yesterday, so don't think he'll confine himself to his own board.

Have you figured out why he came here to announce that the reports of his death were greatly exaggerated? We didn't have the fake obit notice or death certificate here -- they were on other boards. Yet he spewed his venom here.

Gatekeeper....
Because WE took it upon ourselves to do SOMETHING...
Fri Oct 22 19:12:16 1999


And he did NOT initiate any or it.

Nothing to do with his term "STRANGE" or UFOlogy stuff....

We took it upon ourselves to investigate what is involved in putting up an orbiting machine and conversed the aspects of just that.

Contradictory to what he claims is our intention....he is an idiot for the entrance and he could have done better than that. That's what I get for thinkling I guess.

It may be an option to move the MoonCam.org idea up with a passcode protected internal BBS to carry on....

Gates of Babylon....

Grendel
Gates - I think a board dedicated
Fri Oct 22 22:50:25 1999


exclusively to the MoonCam project would be a good idea - we could still sling around ideas here but keep the results there under password protection. There is Scott's board, of course, but it's not yet protected.

As things evolve, we may generate a certain amount of proprietary material and we would need a safe place to keep it that would be accessible to those concerned but not to trolls and spoilers. Also we don't want to tip our hand prematurely to the sugar daddies we intend to mug for bux.

GOM
Gates & Grendel, I gotta agree . . .
Sat Oct 23 01:41:35 1999


Hahaha . . . I just realized that the three of us together form the 3G Foundation!!! Now we can take over the world.

I'm sure easy to get a laugh out of . . .

:)

Da Grump

Debaser
Respectfully, I disagree...
Sat Oct 23 00:36:50 1999


Through the community that has been cultivated here, we've come up with some ideas and we get to learn about each other's strengths and weaknesses here. Being about more than one topic helps to bring others into it who may have valuable ideas to add; if we have to put up with some trolling now and then its worth it to me. Plus, sometimes those trollers turn out to be much more helpful later on. Personally, I'd just as soon see us stay right where we started and let it branch and develop.

Jason

Anonymous
From Reap
Fri Oct 22 19:16:28 1999


E.J.
ROBERT STEPHENS my friend is
Fri Oct 22 19:01:22 1999
URL:http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=57810&article=14165
IP#: 206.252.230.97


dead so damnit LET IT BE have you no shame?????

Anonymous
But then he posted
Fri Oct 22 19:38:05 1999


E.J.
Wrong
Fri Oct 22 19:19:53 1999


We layed him to rest out back, along side of his dog Riylie who also took his own life. It was a very sad day for us all , Rylie will be missed.
e.j.
--------------------------------------
Could it be that E.J.IS JUST PLAYING WITH US??????

Anonymous
Well, how disgusting
Fri Oct 22 19:59:03 1999


Sorry, I didn't see the follow up E.J. post. Was it also from BigSky.com?

I am so tired of the games these people play and Rams (if it was) crap here yesterday was pathetic. That such an intelligent man can discredit him self so, is pitiful.

Christopher, who wishes E.J./Rams et al would disappear from the Internet.

mdj
Net play...
Fri Oct 22 19:53:48 1999



Somebody's playing with you all....Yesterday I got a forwarded email about this death certificate and obit....sure wasn't hard to find out it was a bunch of hooey...I did a search at ufomind to relocate these boards to see what folks were saying. A lot of familiar names still around (I mean familiar nicknames).

Looks like people are actually discussing interesting stuff at these boards....above and beyond that boring, and debilitating, soap opera of some months back.

www.missoulian.com/obituaries/

Last archived story on Stephens at the Missoulian was in June.

Robert A.M. Stephens
RAMS answer to Tin Foil Hatter
Fri Oct 22 23:51:25 1999




Tin Foil Hatter
Robert, old friend......
Fri Oct 22 18:54:07 1999


So Robert, you're back.. What now old friend. What's the agenda. Dissent? Full tilt back peddle? More name calling, telling everyone you love them, and then attacking
them?

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RAMS: That whole exchange from "you're insects, we are love," if any of these people had a functioning mind, is from episode 24, called "Conspiracy" from "Star Trek: the Next Generation". Thus, the 'attacks' are verbatim exchanges what was from that episode and what Ufology did to me in response in the very beginning when I stated things like NASA is not hiding planets, cities on Mars are inconclusive, etc, etc.

But, this culture is too lame to understand this since they are humorless dogs. They attack our science, our institutuions, our acheivements, with filth like what Bell and Hoagland propagate, when the real issues are in fact real and may actually effects us all in the times ahead outside our normal evolvement. Outside of Ufology this is taken out of acceptance and is not mentioned in the realm of hyperbole present in Ufology, rather, is taken to task through learned science, something Ufology is sorely lacking and my main issue against Ufology and what it espouses, and that is my main issue with this culture.

Art Bell , behind the scenes, if anyone has noticed, has taken this fact to heart to a large degree and is trying to soften the sensational and tone down some of the 'scientific terrorism' (via quote Paul Dore) with clarity that what is espoused is, "Entertainment". He is to be praised for this. Joe Frimage and myself have had an effect in this; not to hurt Ufology or Art's show, but to tone down the "screaming fire in the threater"---since there very well might be things on our horizon that when they are divulged, either we all need to confront them or else we would be so numbed by "Hoagisms", as I call Hoagland's rubbish, that this would come right upon us and we would shrug and be asleep since wwe we would be numbed down to the point of stupor. This is to be considered.

Too, as Gatekeeper could tell you, and that Firmage has told Bell, eventually, like any occupation or endeavor, if you attack it long enough out of hand as Ufology has done to DoD, NASA and other institutions of endeavor, those that work in same , and are immune from persecutions of censure, will come back at the attackers throats with a vengence. I have done this. It is a matter of our paychecks and what we do. Oprah had to face this in court in the cattle industry when she made off hand remarks about it. Others will come forward and attack back if it continues. This is normal.

I have taken great issue with the 'Hoagisms' of this culture and deemed it the now coined moniker 'Strange' because of what it does and espouses without an opposing voice of recourse. This must stop. There are millions of 'Stephens' out there like me that look back into this culture and are sorely pissed at what it espouses, wrongly, without ever the offered voice of recourse to what is claimed against us. That is the reason I've had such fun at assailing this place. And when I have done so soberly, I've been threatened to be sued (Gersten; 12-10-1998, over badmouthing Hoagland's statement on the moon, or Art Bell over his continued attack on my profession and him turning it into a sex show involving his misaligned son) and this only rails people like me to newer heights of oral debauchery on this medium against this place. And it will get worse in dissent until there is a voice offered otherwise of reason.

It is too be expected. If you shoot messengers, some are armed and will shoot back. That is quite mundane for fact and it is so and it will get worse as Ufology gets worse. It too can lessen if things get better. However, Ufology attacks and acts like a bunch of assholes and cannot figure out why those on the outside like myself attack back with fury. Stupid.

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Or are you gonna fill us in on what you've been doing for Nasa or any one else. Any more movie posters or toy choo-choos.How are the Johnson's doings? Haven't heard for E.J. in a while. How do you like the new juiced up iMacs. Fill us in, let us know what YOUR world is like. We want to know.

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RAMS: NASA: Still working on the new motor drives for the new generation rover for JPL, doing work for others, building three, 3/8ths scale musuem versions of Shay logging locomotives (They are not toys. They are finescale exact working prototypes of the real thing and retail for about $5000. each. There are currently three people left in the U.S. doing this, modeling locomotives in finescale in brass with a torch. I love early industrial railroading and have been caught in its grasp for the last 20 years.). Been doing a refurb package for Endeavor for USA since the parts in the aft section of Discovery were found flawed and all flights have been postpoed because of it (hundreds are working on these fixes across the country in different companys). Been cutting wood for winter and diving in the Flathead River for the tribal folks below Kerr Dam. Johnsons are fine and Riley has a bum leg. A meteror went over last night and it was magnificent in its break up. All other things are well and sound. A sow Grizzly bear has been hanging out in the back paddock eating the apples. She has two fat cubs and hasn't been a bother but we never go out to cut wood without the 12 gauge loaded with rifled slugs and magnum Number 4 Buckshot and my only hand shooter I have; a .45 model 1911 Army Colt. Grizzlies are weridos.

Deer are thicker than usual this year too.

Wished the Mars orbiter hadn't fouled as that was a bad setback for JPL.

Thank you Tin Foil for the wonderful post and query of my doings.

RAMS
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Tin Foil Hatter
I think I might like the new kinder gentler...
Sat Oct 23 00:35:46 1999


RAMS. Wow what a concept. All it took was a few intelligent questions and a few intelligent answers to sway an opinion. So what about new juiced up iMacs. got one yet?

- Tin Foil Hatter

p.s. - I have noticed that Art has been more "main stream"
in some of his ideas. Especially the y2k stuff.

Robert A.M. Stephens
RAMS to Tin Foil Hatter--addenda
Sat Oct 23 00:51:35 1999



Tin Foil Hatter
I think I might like the new kinder gentler...
Sat Oct 23 00:35:46 1999


RAMS. Wow what a concept. All it took was a few intelligent questions and a few intelligent answers to sway an opinion. So what about new juiced up iMacs. got
one yet?

- Tin Foil Hatter

p.s. - I have noticed that Art has been more "main stream"
in some of his ideas. Especially the y2k stuff.

========================
It occured to me I didn't answer the rest of your query properly.

Macs:

I still am loving the G3 400 but have back ordered the new G4 550 and the new Apple 22" long Studio Display. I can't wait but those are not to be ready now until first quarter of 2000. I am not in the market for the little iMac but I have seen one in Missoula and they are quite the little box. I just love macs anyway since I can have them be a Mac, or a PC, all in one machine without all the added expense.


Art Bell:

He really has, and is trying to be, a little more responsible. For one Firmage told him he would never come on his show again if he continued with the "bullshit". I agree fully. Too, the lawsuit is and was a ruse since no attorney in California would take the case so there was no response on my part to go to court with in the end. Secondly, when the papers were presented to my attorney in Great Falls and they were then presented to the court for pre-default judgement against me, the Montana court laughed and tossed them as ludicrous. This would then show that one, in fact, cannot, sue a whole planet because they decide to be some sort of cyber NAZI censor based on words said. That, oft times, one must clean up their own threater before they continue to yell fire.

I believe Art has learned this and is trying sincerely to have his show, have the strange guest like Hoagy and others on, but at the same time qualify what he is doing. I believe he is doing a good job at this and should be praised for this effort. Kudos to him as he succeeds to make inroads to everything Strange, but at the same time have an entertaining show format.

RAMS

Nancy
Court case
Sun Oct 24 00:41:28 1999



He really has, and is trying to be, a little more responsible. For one Firmage told him he would never come on his show again if he continued with the "bullshit". I agree fully. Too, the lawsuit is and was a ruse since no attorney in California would take the case so there was no response on my part to go to court with in the end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Did you know that I had a "Motion to Dismiss" made out for you to sign and file in that Bell v. Oates lawsuit, so that you didn't need to default?

2. Did David know that the lawsuit was a ruse?

Robert A.M. Stephens
re: court case
Mon Oct 25 06:47:43 1999




Nancy
Court case
Sun Oct 24 00:41:28 1999



He really has, and is trying to be, a little more responsible. For one Firmage told him he would never come on his show again if he continued with the "bullshit". I agree
fully. Too, the lawsuit is and was a ruse since no attorney in California would take the case so there was no response on my part to go to court with in the end.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Did you know that I had a "Motion to Dismiss" made out for you to sign and file in that Bell v. Oates lawsuit, so that you didn't need to default?

RAMS: Boy, Nanc, I sure didn't. That would have been timely.

2. Did David know that the lawsuit was a ruse?

RAMS: I don't Dave did. He was advised to ignore it up here if he could have it moved to Montana, but the timing was off for him I think.

RAMS

Debaser
Thanks RAMS...anyone with an
Sat Oct 23 00:29:07 1999


open mind should be able to read that and have an understanding of the situation. That doesn't mean they have to agree with your tactics, but when you get right down to it, that's avoiding the issues that you've brought up concerning UFOlogy, or at least how its presented and propagated to the masses. Much of the fallout has been a desperate attempt to avoid this issue and some haven't missed that.

Jason

Gatekeeper....
Y'all better clarify this statement.....
Sat Oct 23 00:17:58 1999


RAMS sez:

----------------------------------------------------------

"" Been doing a refurb package for Endeavor for USA since
the parts in the aft section of Discovery were found flawed and all flights have
been postpoed because of it (hundreds are working on these fixes across the
country in different companys).""


----------------------------------------------------------

I'll be looking hard at this so make it easy or Bullshit around it.....What are the component failures or sub-assembly red-tags.... What red tagged aft section parts caused "all flights postponed"?


Gates of Babylon.... Ready to shred BullShit retorts....

Robert A.M. Stephens
RAMS to Bullshit Gate
Sat Oct 23 00:39:03 1999


Gatekeeper....
Y'all better clarify this statement.....
Sat Oct 23 00:17:58 1999


RAMS sez:

----------------------------------------------------------

"" Been doing a refurb package for Endeavor for USA since
the parts in the aft section of Discovery were found flawed and all flights have
been postpoed because of it (hundreds are working on these fixes across the
country in different companys).""


----------------------------------------------------------

I'll be looking hard at this so make it easy or Bullshit around it.....What are the component failures or sub-assembly red-tags.... What redtagged aft section parts caused
"all flights postponed"?


Gates of Babylon.... Ready to shred BullShit retorts....

========================================

I'm not sure what has set you off to be such an arrogant low grade asshole since your pleasent phone calls to me early last spring but clean it up, get your shit pulled together, or I'll ignore you no different than any other asshole like Sircumsalot, Rocky Jones, Observer and others. Understand mister?

I do not beleive you are in any postion you 'retort' anything since you do not work in STS, anymore than I work in Being Aerospace.

With that said, to answer, if you shall recall, the launch of STS-96, which I covered back in the end of May and had Firmage with me at KSC, divulged that not only were there motor bucket problems, line feed problems, but that aft connector plates in the OMS area were flawed or showed signs of premature failure. USA did the fault tree and designed fixes. They then have farmed these out to everyone. That is what I'm working on along with the remotor requirements for replacement for the new generation rover for JPL.

(I am designing the usage of Fahlhaber Micromotors rather than the Japan made Maxon motors now deployed but have a shorter operating life in the rigors of operating the rover from as much as a mile from lander as intended)

I do not know what 'red flags' are in regards to STS. In STS there are 701 CRIT one items (CRIT=Criticality One Items, a failure of any one will render loss of mission, vehicle, and crew). The troubles for STS, all four birds, are CRIT 1 items and have then, as a result, scrubbed all flights until further noted or that fixes are done.

Hope all is well with you and that the nabobs have not been troublesome to you. Where is the dynamic flight photos you always shared with everyone?

RAMS

Gatekeeper....
To Bullshithead RAMS....
Sat Oct 23 01:03:36 1999


Orbitor Manufacturing

Which system are you working on again?

Which Modifications do you refer to?

You said AFT section?

You said OMS had a problem?

STS-96 from beginning to end.

Care to point out what exactly you are doing that they have identified as a problem and fixed onsite?

Gates of Babylon...

Robert A.M. Stephens
You are an asshole Gate, for whatever reason
Sat Oct 23 01:06:54 1999


read the main stream press or the latest version of AV-Week and the one just before it.

bye-bye

RAMS

Gatekeeper.....
AV-Week Oct 18 1999....
Sat Oct 23 01:17:57 1999


Flying compass call The Secret Jammer...pg50

Cover photo of EC-130H from the 41st Electronic Combat Sqdn.

What am I supposed to be looking for? Who's where section?

As if you were some high level VP of Stillwater Mills Aerospace on the move.

Or maybe the Advertisers index....Is it there?

Or maybe the classifieds?

Where?

Gates of Babylon...

Gatekeeper....
One ASSHOLE towards ANOTHER...Your full of shit.
Sat Oct 23 01:09:35 1999


Aviation Week and Space Tech I've read fgor years....Never heard of Stillwater Mills Aerospace.

Nobody has....

Other than an Artist.....


Gates of Babylon....Easily recognize another ASSHOLE such as you RAMS!

Robert A.M. Stephens
My demise is greatly exaggerated
Fri Oct 22 23:58:18 1999


oddly, though I like to see my obit.

Great stuff.

RAMS

Theo
A question about that...
Sat Oct 23 00:10:18 1999


Hi Robert,

Any idea who is propagating the hoax of your death?

-Theo

Robert A.M. Stephens
RAMS for Theo
Sat Oct 23 00:12:30 1999





Theo
A question about that...
Sat Oct 23 00:10:18 1999


Hi Robert,

Any idea who is propagating the hoax of your death?

-Theo

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No, I don't but i sure do enjoy it. My obit was fun to read.

RAMS

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